Is it safe to say that China is at least 30 years ahead of India?
11.06.2025 12:40

Coming back to Greek Philosophy this time.
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AQI (Air Quality Index) Delhi and Beijing⊠stinks to high heavens. Equivalent to smoking two packs of cigarettes/day even for the non-smoker.
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Would that be logical? Yes!
I land at Hyderabad or Bangalore Airports. The airports are spotless, well maintained, orderly and the people follow all the rules, the security is run smoothly like clockwork. The Uber and Taxi System is excellent and smoothly run. So is the Baggage Carousel, Immigration, Customs, etc. etc. WOW!
They, in turn, have eyes only for the Good Ole USA.
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Anyone, who looks behind to see whoâs on their heel. will befall the same fate as all the suitors of the lovely Atalanta in Greek Mythology, who was the fastest runner in the world.
Zeno of Elea, born c. 495 BCâdied c. 430 BC
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Here it is an Eco-system where both Dung and Vishwa seem to be competing for the race to the bottom of the well. đ
Petty Corruption. My mainland Chinese American friends, who travel back and forth to China assure me that petty Corruption is well and alive in China and the ranking by Transparency International, which monitors âperception of corruptionâ in nations, ranks both India and China about equal. So that seems about right. đ
Donât compare, Donât Complain.
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Let us assume that the Polity called âDung Poo Pew â is ahead of the Polity called âVishwa Parihasaâ in some mythical race.
Afterall, Whatsapp, FB, mobile smart phones, have all helped us interact as well as avoid pesky and nosy neighbors and relatives.
Not the distant unheard of thunder from climes and places, thousands of miles away.
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But is this what we want to emulate? I donât know the answer to that?
Maybe I should Poka Yoke and Nemawashi my writings as well. đđ
Poka Yoke: Make the design of the systems, so that even âvillage idiotsâ (there are many) wonât be able to make things worse in the Eco-system and ruin your experiences.
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I will even wager one of my shares in JD. Com ( a Chinese MNC) that most Chinese are not even bothered to see, if India is âlaggingâ behind them.
Hippomenes won the hand in marriage of Atalanta following a running race by distracting her by tossing âgolden applesâ whenever, he thought, she was gaining on him.
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Excellent staff from all over India. Amazing competence and professionalism shown by all from Doctors to Nurses to technicians, even the lift staff. đđđ
These Airports are an Ecosystem, where Iâm far more âcomfortableâ and have a more âpleasurable experienceâ than at La Guardia Airport or JFK Airport in New York $hitty. (misspelled intentionally).
There is the Greek Philosopher Zenoâs paradox.
And it does not matter, if the technology was invented in Timbuktoo, Africa. Copy Paste, Repeat.
Donât constantly engage in below the navel gazing, if you know what I mean and most of all Donât Complain; or at least not so much.
Malls and Cineplexes in the US are dying⊠and descrepit (Thank you Amazon and Netfix) ⊠So experience wise, you folks have it good. đđđ
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Beyond that how logical would it be for one to pick a number based on the number of trips, the Planet Earth makes around the Sun?
Now, it is an experience that is just as good or not as good as any Bank Office in the US or China or any where else.
Also, what does âAheadâ and âBehindâ really mean?
Not many will agree with Zeno, because he is a Mlechha Yavana Barbarian.đđafter all.
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Space race- Technology in general.
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Another Example from Greek Mythology: Hippomenes and Atalanta race. [This is a warning to my country, the USA, really]
Again, in any urban setting in India, the Malls are an eco-system as good as any experience in China.
So, if China were at all worried, like Hippomenes, that India would overtake them in this âraceâ that they are not worried about, then they will like Hippomenes toss some thorny crab apples* to distract the nattering classes in India.
This begs the question.
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Some Examples
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Any Bank in an urban setting, used to be the equivalent of the famous play by Samuel Becket âWaiting for Godotâ, except back then in India, decades ago.
What is the experience of an ordinary salaried family to living in this bee-hive?
Viswa Parihasa and Dung Poo Pew Parodox per Zeno
What is so magical about 30?
Airports: ECO-SYSTEM.
Another Eco System, where you donât have to apologize. đđđ
Look at each individual Eco-system within your immediate environs, that works in your land, in your local Area and if you are not discomfited, then all is fine. âExperienceâ is the key here.
I generally donât place a time scale on who is ahead or who is behind and by how many years in this âGame of Nationsâ.
The other factor is TIME. This is where the paradox comes in.
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Any suitor, who wanted to win speedy Atalantaâs hand would have to beat her in a race and if they lose, they would lose their heads.
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Hippomenes distracting the speedy Atalanta to win the race and also her hand in marriage
Zenoâs answer: NEVER.đ«
So no harm for Indians to âcopyâ the technology obtained by sweat and tears and expense of billions of dollars or rubles over decades by the big Two.
India has a space program that seeks to reap military as well as civilian benefits in this so-called race which there is none.
And the plummeting birth rate in China and the aversion to marriage in China and even sex, among the young is increasing exponentially, seems to point to that.
This paradox argues that Viswa Parihasa, a swifter than Dung runner, can never overtake the slower Dung Poo Pew, who has a head start by the way, because by the time Viswa Parihasa reaches the Dung's starting point, Dung will have moved forward, and Viswa must then catch up to that new position, repeating this process⊠ad infinitum.
Well for starters, âVishwa Parihasa â must run at a âfasterâ pace than âDung Po Pew â.
Look instead at Pockets of Comfort created within your immediate environs.
How long would it take for âVishwa Parihasa â to catch up with âDung Po Pewâ.
Not true in many other areas of the country. đ
Nemawashi: Small incremental improvements, that make your daily experiences better in whatever âEcosystemâ, you have to interact with.
ECOSYSTEMS where the citizens experiences need to improve.
There is no shame, if one wants to repeat the technology, that was developed by the pioneers such as Russia and the US. The guide book and protocols are all there to emulate (Copy).
What is it that you folks wants to âCatch upâ here??? Just asking not telling.
Now for some areas of discomfort.
Many lost their heads, as they looked behind to see if Atalanta was gaining on them . Hippomenes was given a head start by Atalanta.
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Never understood what it meant, but now in the winter of my years, I now realize what that means. đ
D-Marts etc.
That is all that matters really.
Iâve heard this proverb before: Fools build Houses and Wise Men live in them.
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Before Desi eyes go somber and tearful, let me explain.
It is the same situation, when I learn Newtonâs Laws or Calculus. I can freely learn it without breaking much of a sweat. Use some elseâs Gyanodayam for literally free.
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China is a polity; India is a polity. So far so good.
This so-called race is in my opinion, a Phantasm, that only exists in peopleâs mind and I would wager that this Phantasm chiefly exists, it seems in India- which is looking at China with a mixture of envy and jealousy.
Your Corner D-Marts gave me the same âexperienceâ as any that I had in Japan, China or Korea.
So what Iâm suggesting is that rather than constantly comparing and tearing oneâs clothes in agony, employ what the Japanese call âNemawashiâ and Poka Yoke
Instead of giving GDP numbers, GDP/Capita and all those Statistics to make you feel good or bad, I decided to answer Nagarajan Sirâs question in the form of a long meandering discourse.
China did that and still does that too. And I canât understand complaints by the US and Russians here.
So, here is my proposition.
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The model that prompts such a question is based on a âCircus Maximusâ model in which Chariot races were run in ancient Rome, where Individual Nations in this example, are run like Chariots. Some are ahead, while some are behind and we are all spectators here.